Ron Perlman on getting girlie for “Frankie Go Boom” and his hedonistic “Pacific Rim” character


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Every now and then, a supporting role comes along that has the potential to be one of the most memorable parts of a film. “Pulp Fiction” had Christopher Walken’s watch-hiding former prisoner of war, “Tropic Thunder” had Tom Cruise’s slimy studio exec, and any movie in which Bill Murray had a supporting role had, well… whatever role Murray played.

“Frankie Go Boom,” the new comedy from “Around the Bend” director Jordan Roberts, has a transsexual computer hacker played by Ron Perlman.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The film stars Perlman’s “Sons of Anarchy” and “Pacific Rim” cast mate Charlie Hunnam as Frankie, a struggling writer who’s been pranked, ridiculed, and otherwise tormented by his brother, Bruce (Chris O’Dowd), throughout his entire life. When Bruce secretly records Frankie’s embarrassing one-night stand with the daughter of a crazy, gun-toting former celebrity (Chris Noth), the prank puts both of them in crosshairs when the tape ends up online. Their only hope to avoid catching a bullet – and saving Frankie’s relationship with the girl (Lizzy Caplan) – may lie with Phyllis (Perlman), an expert hacker who recently began life as a woman.

IFC spoke with Perlman about his gender-bending part in the hilarious “Frankie Go Boom,” as well as his role in Guillermo Del Toro’s “Pacific Rim,” which also stars Hunnam.

IFC: This is one of those times when the old question “How did you get connected with this project?” probably has a great story, so…

RON PERLMAN: [Laughs] Well, this was Charlie Hunnam’s summer project one year between seasons of “Sons of Anarchy.” He gave me a call and said, “The director would like to know if you’d consider doing this.” I read the script looking at another character, but I got to the point where Phyllis enters the film and sticks his/her hand in… You know what? I don’t even know how to refer to Phyllis at this point. You’d think I’d know by now… But he/she sticks her hand in Frankie’s face. And the gesture of having Jax Teller [Hunnam’s character in “Sons of Anarchy”] kiss the hand of Clay Morrow [Perlman’s “Sons” character] in that scene, and the image of that in my twisted imagination, it was delicious enough for me to pursue the idea of making it a reality. So I looked at my to-do list and it said, “Take out the garbage,” “Repair the sink,” and “Play a woman.” So it was one of those things I could cross off the list.

IFC: How did you go about getting into character? Did you get any tips on how to play a woman?

PERLMAN: I just let it wash over me. The fact of the matter is, I had just finished making the movie “Drive,” and I think I finished at 3:30 in the morning and then went to work at 7AM to do my one day on “Frankie Go Boom.” So I knew I wouldn’t have much time to do anything but learn the lines, but I was going to have hours of getting various body parts shaved, waxing the old eyebrows, trying on the wig, figuring out which bosom is going to look best in a particular ensemble, and so forth… So hopefully by the end of that process and the time that I had to dwell on it, a starlet would be born.

IFC: Did you have any input on Phyllis’ wardrobe or makeup or anything?

PERLMAN: The makeup portion I had no input on. I just sat there absolutely delighted to watch it happen. The girls who designed the costumes, they were phenomenal people, and they were all basically working for free because it was such a low-budget film. They found so much glee in presenting these choices to me: the clothes, the wig, the nail polish color, the shoes, the bra, what went into the bra, what came out of the bra, etc. It was just a lot of fun. I’m probably the ugliest woman of all time at the end of the day, no matter how many hours you spend caring for all these decisions. I mean, seriously – I could haunt a house. We weren’t looking to replace Tony Curtis in “Some Like It Hot,” is what I’m saying. We had to take what god had given me, which was not much.

IFC: This seems like one of those films in which everyone was ad-libbing all the time and doing all sorts of things that would make it hard not to crack up in the middle of a scene…

PERLMAN: [Laughs] Yeah, it was very difficult. I had never met Chris O’Dowd before this, but I had seen his work and was a huge fan of his. So I shook his hand when I met him and introduced myself. I said,”Hi, Chris. It’s very nice to meet you. Can I ask you a question?” And he said, “Sure. Anything, Ron.” And you have to imagine him saying that in this beautiful Irish brogue. So I said, “Would you mind if, when you walk through the door in this scene, I kiss you right on the mouth?” You could just see him wanting to say, “Yes. Yes, I would mind.” Every fibre in his being was telling him to say, “Please, please don’t do that, Ron.” But he was such a gentleman that he said, “Well, if that’s what you feel like you really need to do, I guess you can…” And I said, “Good. Thanks!” before he had time to reconsider.

IFC: And that was your first conversation with him?

PERLMAN: Yeah, I’ve never broken the ice like that before, and hopefully never again. [Laughs]

IFC: So it seems like you and Charlie Hunnam are in everything together these days. Is this an intentional thing, or just one of those weird convergences in Hollywood?

PERLMAN: Yeah, we’re going to be making “On The Road To West Hollywood” next together. I’m going to do a little standup, he’s going to do a little singing. We’re going to be the new Hope and Crosby of the 21st century. [Laughs]

IFC: I would watch that.

PERLMAN: [Laughs] Well, thank you. But really, it’s just one thing leading to another. You get in these circles and then somehow can’t find your way out. [Laughs] The whole thing with Guillermo Del Toro falling in love with Charlie and putting him in “Pacific Rim” was highly coincidental. Charlie had made “Children of Men” with Alfonso Cuaron, and Cuaron is Del Toro’s best friend. Alfonso had great things to say about Charlie, and Guillermo was looking for a way to work with Charlie for a long time, and it just so happened that when “Pacific Rim” came up it was the perfect opportunity for them to collide. And Guillermo has made a promise to both the world and me – and I don’t think he cares what the world thinks, but I’m never going to let him out of it – that whenever he makes a movie in English, Ron Perlman will be in it. I’m sure one day that string is going to end, but he found a way to put me in “Pacific Rim,” so there you have it.

IFC: We haven’t seen much of you in the “Pacific Rim” trailers so far, so what can you tell us about Hannibal Chau, your character in the film?

PERLMAN: If you give it some thought and think about the idea of an unwieldy Jew from Brooklyn named Hannibal Chau, you’ll probably come to the conclusion that he’s full of shit. And sure enough, he won’t disappoint you. He’s completely full of shit. He’s a man of immense appetites – a hedonist. He likes money a lot and he’ll do anything for it. The situation in the movie has made him a kind of war profiteer. He has an arrangement with the government whereby he has the rights to harvest and reap the benefits of fallen kaiju [massive alien creatures] remains. So he’s doing the government a service by removing these things’ bodies, but he’s doing himself a service by breaking them down and using them for various purposes in the name of vanity. For instance, he sells kaiju bone powder for $500 a pound, because it’s supposedly 150 times more potent than viagra.

IFC: What else is coming up for you?

PERLMAN: We just started shooting the new season of “Sons of Anarchy” yesterday, so that will keep me busy for the next five months. I’m also launching my own indie film company. We’re about to announce a co-production with another production entity to do five movies with them. The first movie we do on our own will be one I’m directing called “Wooden Lake.” It’s in the process of casting, and that will all be announced in the next couple of months. I’ll start shooting that the minute “Sons” comes down in November.

“Frankie Go Boom” is available now on DVD and Blu-Ray, and stars Charlie Hunnam, Chris O’Dowd, Chris Noth, Lizzy Caplan, and Ron Perlman. The film is written and directed by Jordan Roberts.


Two for None

Watch Free Episodes of Benders and Gigi Does It Right Now

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The 50th season of Documentary Now! is drawing to a close tonight starting at 10P with the tale of friends, falsettos, and feathered hair, “Gentle & Soft: The Story of the Blue Jean Committee.” After the moving finale, stay tuned for special sneak peeks of your two favorite new shows Benders and Gigi Does It. Or if you can’t wait, you can watch them RIGHT NOW below.

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Crack open a cold one with a sneak peek of the Benders premiere at 11P —it’s what the hockey loving team members of Uncle Chubbys would do! This band of friends loves drinking beer and playing hockey, but they’re really only good at one of those things.

Then starting at 11:30P, get to know Gigi Does It, the new show starring David Krumholtz as a grandma who gets her groove back. Gertrude Rotblum, a.k.a. “Gigi,” may have lost her beloved husband, but she gained a new lease on life thanks to a secret bank account filled with millions. With her trusty sidekick in tow, Gigi is ready to take on the world, one buzzword, politician, and naked art class at a time.

In addition to YouTube and right here on IFC.com, an episode each of Benders and Gigi Does It can be seen on VOD and TV Everywhere platforms through IFC’s cable partners.

Early looks got you hooked? Then be sure to catch the new seasons of Benders and Gigi Does It when they premiere on IFC starting Thursday, October 1 at 10P and 10:30P, respectively. It’s like Christmas in early October!

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Stale Love Life?

5 Ways to Get Ready for Tonight’s Benders and Improve Your Relationship

Catch Benders tonight at 10P ET/PT on IFC.

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Tonight on a brand-new Benders, Karen has a surprise for Paul while Andrew has to deal with a motormouth girlfriend. Before you settle in at 10P ET/PT to watch, check out five ways tonight’s episode can improve your romantic life.

1. Communicate Your Needs in the Bedroom.

Communication is important in any relationship. Sometimes you want to talk about your day, and sometimes you feel like Anthony and just want to fall asleep listening to the latest Marc Maron podcast.

2.  Work on your excuse game.

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However, if you do need to find a way to, say, drone out your talkative girlfriend, don’t follow Anthony’s lead. Come up with an excuse that doesn’t lead to you mispronouncing “tinnitus.”

3. Rescue a cat together.

A pet can be a great way to inject some warmth into your relationship. Just make sure your significant other doesn’t break out into hives at the sight of a friendly feline.

4. Keep your lady away from Jim Breuer.

The Breu-ski cannot be trusted around the fairer sex.

5. If all else fails, remember: Use the Chubby.

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To make a relationship work, remember: there is no try, only do. If Paul didn’t work hard to keep Karen, she’d probably be Mrs. Brue-ski right now.

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Zombie Killers

10 Weapons You Definitely Want in the Zombie Apocalypse

Catch Robert Kirkman on Comedy Bang! Bang!

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How do you kill that which is already dead? Spectacularly. Zombies aren’t just cannon-fodder — they’re guilt-free target practice for every weapon you can imagine. In celebration of The Walking Dead‘s Robert Kirkman on tonight’s Comedy Bang! Bang!, here are 10 items you definitely want when the inevitable zombie outbreak happens.

10. The Boomstick, Evil Dead franchise


Ash’s trusty sawed-off shotgun, aka the boomstick, is the perfect tool for winning any argument with the undead.

9. Double-Double-Barrelled Sawed-Off Shotguns, Resident Evil: Afterlife

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The only thing better than a double-barrelled shotgun? Double-double-barrelled shotguns! Resident Evil‘s Alice shows off her inhuman ex-human killing powers by loading four barrels with quarters for maximum enemy-shredding effect.

8. Chainsaw Hand, Evil Dead franchise


Ash’s chainsaw enhancement gives new meaning to the phrase “lend a hand.”

7. Machine Gun/Grenade Launcher Combo Leg, Planet Terror

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When Cherry Darling gets a gun as a replacement left leg she uses it to kick dead ass far harder than any human limb. Especially when she launches the most epic crotch shot of all time.

6. Cricket Bat, Shaun of the Dead

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Shaun of the Dead‘s characters attack incoming zombies with anything at hand, be it a handy cricket bat or a box of old vinyl records.

5. Morgan’s Bo staff, The Walking Dead

You can’t get much lower tech than a stick, making Morgan’s weapon the most easily maintained in any post-apocalyptic situation. It’s also the only weapon with a non-lethal option, enabling Morgan to maintain his respect for all living humans while still beating any of those humans idiotic enough to attack him.

4. Grand Piano, Zombieland

Zombieland has a magnificent musical moment when an old lady baits a zombie into a Looney Tunes-esque death by crushing underneath a grand piano. With Woody Harrelson banjoing another brain-eater into oblivion, the movie is an entire orchestra of undead-enders.

3. Michonne’s Katana, The Walking Dead

Michonne may be the most badass character in fiction. She doesn’t just defeat zombies, she slices them apart with utter contempt and keeps her own nearest and dearest undead on chains to protect her from the hordes. But only after amputating anything which would make them dangerous.

2. Decapitation Arrow Truck!, Juan of the Dead

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The decapitation arrow is one of the most glorious weapons we’ve ever seen, combining every benefit of staying alive — planning, teamwork, tool use, and the ability to shout “duck” — into a weapon that can create entire corpse circles.

1. Daryl’s crossbow, The Walking Dead

Shotguns announce your total victory over anything in front of you. They also announce your edible presence to everything in every other direction for miles. Expert hunter Daryl Dixon solves this problem with a badass crossbow. Silent, brutal, and you can even recover the bolts from collapsed corpses. Daryl knows the importance of recycling in the zombie apocalypse.


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Gigi Goes Wild in a Video That’s Too Hot for Facebook

Catch Gigi uncensored Mondays at 10:30P on IFC.

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You may have heard of Bad Grandpa, but this video of Gigi uncut and uncensored would shock the dentures right out of his mouth

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Gigi may be a grandmother, but she’s not the stay home and knit doilies and bake cookies while sipping weak tea type. As anyone who has watched Gigi Does It can tell you, she’s more likely to knit a gimp mask and woo the dad jeans off of every grandpa in Boca without a thought for what the retirement community will think. She has a mouth that would make a sailor blush and isn’t afraid to use it.

Watch this supercut of Gigi’s finest bon mots and bad deeds, but be warned– Gigi is NSFW and Not Safe For Facebook, so crank up the volume at your own peril.

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