Rashida Jones on writing “Celeste and Jesse Forever,” her cinematic role models and more

Rashida Jones and Andy Samberg in Celeste and Jesse Forever

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By Jennifer Vineyard

When Celeste, as played by Rashida Jones in “Celeste and Jesse Forever,” notices things, she’s very particular. A guy she’s just met hits on her at a yoga class, and with a glance, she’s able to deliver this high-powered assessment: “You traded in your Porsche for an Audi because the economy’s still tanking, and you’re afraid you’ll lose your job. You just bought a Droid cell phone because you think it makes you seem more business-oriented instead of an iPhone, which you think is for teenage girls. You go to yoga because you went to a sub-Ivy League school, and you spent the last ten years working long hours and drinking all weekend and you thought it was time to do something spiritual.” Chris Messina, the guy who’s just failed at asking her out, is dumbfounded, because she was right. And as Holly Hunter told us in “Broadcast News,”‘ it’s awful to always believe you know better, to always be right.

Celeste belongs in the same league as Hunter’s classic Jane Craig character as well as Meg Ryan’s Sally Albright from “When Harry Met Sally… “– she’s a complex, difficult, articulate character whose primary relationship is with her male best friend. Jones, who also co-wrote “Celeste and Jesse” with her writing partner Will McCormack, told IFC that they were her role models.

“We watched ‘When Harry Met Sally…’ so many times, ad nauseum, while writing,” Jones said. “And ‘Annie Hall,’ ‘Husbands and Wives,’ and ‘Broadcast News,’ because they are perfect. I just watched ‘Broadcast News’ again two days ago. The performances are perfect. I was so surprised and elated by Holly Hunter’s performance, which still feels so fresh. It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen before.”

The way Sally orders food in a restaurant or Jane gives directions to a D.C. cabbie — even if in real life, those directions make no sense — speak volumes about their characters. “They feel empowered by their sense of the world,” Jones said. “They created an identity based on this somewhat flawed perception of what’s right, what’s wrong, and you can see it very clearly, very quickly, by someone ordering a sandwich, and how it works for them. They are so particular.”

It’s a trait that someone could hate — call it high-maintenance — or something that could become lovable, as Harry discovers with Sally’s tendency to get everything “on the side.” Both characters, by the way, are based on real-life counterparts — CBS news producer Susan Zirinsky for Jane Craig, and the late writer/director Nora Ephron for Sally Albright. Jones, who was “thrilled” and “excited” to meet Zirinsky at the White House Correspondents Dinner, said that’s what helps make both characters relatable. “That reads,” she said. “Those are real people, and the characters feel real, you know?”

So Jones wanted to take elements of her own character and dating life, and add them to that model, to pay homage to Jane and Sally, “and hopefully add something to it,” she explained. “In our story, as much as that way of being has made Celeste’s life successful, it doesn’t mean she can control everything. And when life happens to her, she’s forced to revaluate how she perceives the world, you know? It all blends together, because she’s making snap judgments about somebody at work, and she’s wrong about it, and she learns from it.”

Jones said that it’s something she battles, too — “my own sense of right, and how myopic that can make me at times” — because it was a survival tool that worked for her and helped her become successful, but it also stands in her way. “I’ve spent enough time in therapy to know that!” she laughed. “This movie was an exorcism of a certain kind of flaw that I don’t like about myself, because I can be very black and white, and make decisions about things, and then once I’ve decided, I’m decided, and it was very hard to change my mind. I don’t really think that way anymore. Getting older is about realizing that you’re never going to know what it’s about, and you have to kind of accept that, you know?”

In Celeste’s situation, she was married to her best friend Jesse (played by Andy Samberg), and when the movie starts, the couple are separated and getting a divorce — yet still hang out all the time together. Unlike traditional romantic comedies, or even romantic dramedies, this one is about learning to let go of romantic fantasies about happily ever after. “I think part of being an adult is leaving the fairytale behind,” Jones said. “I think rom-coms have reflected that over the ages. We kind of got stuck in a box in the ’90s and ‘2000s, but we’re coming out of it again. We’re telling new stories. Judd Apatow is telling romantic stories from the slacker guy’s point of view. And now we have slacker girls, and all these indie comedies like ‘(500) Days of Summer’ where it’s about loving somebody and changing their life because you love them instead.”

Two other post rom-coms this summer, “Lola Versus” and “Take This Waltz,” also explored the similar terrain of complex women trying to find themselves after the breakup, with varying results. “It’s weird,” Jones said. “How does something end up in the zeitgeist? It’s a perfect storm of the people who do it and the people who want it. I hope it’s not just a passing trend, because women have been complex and interesting and dynamic and smart forever, and they will continue to be.”

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Bro and Tell

BFFs And Night Court For Sports

Bromance and Comeuppance On Two New Comedy Crib Series

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“Silicon Valley meets Girls meets black male educators with lots of unrealized potential.”

That’s how Carl Foreman Jr. and Anthony Gaskins categorize their new series Frank and Lamar which joins Joe Schiappa’s Sport Court in the latest wave of new series available now on IFC’s Comedy Crib. To better acquaint you with the newbies, we went right to the creators for their candid POVs. And they did not disappoint. Here are snippets of their interviews:

Frank and Lamar


IFC: How would you describe Frank and Lamar to a fancy network executive you met in an elevator?
Carl: Best bros from college live and work together teaching at a fancy Manhattan private school, valiantly trying to transition into a more mature phase of personal and professional life while clinging to their boyish ways.

IFC: And to a friend of a friend you met in a bar?
Carl: The same way, slightly less coherent.

Anthony: I’d probably speak about it with much louder volume, due to the bar which would probably be playing the new Kendrick Lamar album. I might also include additional jokes about Carl, or unrelated political tangents.

Carl: He really delights in randomly slandering me for no reason. I get him back though. Our rapport on the page, screen, and in real life, comes out of a lot of that back and forth.

IFC: In what way is Frank and Lamar a poignant series for this moment in time?
Carl: It tells a story I feel most people aren’t familiar with, having young black males teach in a very affluent white world, while never making it expressly about that either. Then in tackling their personal lives, we see these three-dimensional guys navigate a pivotal moment in time from a perspective I feel mainstream audiences tend not to see portrayed.

Anthony: I feel like Frank and Lamar continues to push the envelope within the genre by presenting interesting and non stereotypical content about people of color. The fact that this show brought together so many talented creative people, from the cast and crew to the producers, who believe in the project, makes the work that much more intentional and truthful. I also think it’s pretty incredible that we got to employ many of our friends!

Sport Court

Sport Court gavel

IFC: How would you describe Sport Court to a fancy network executive you met in an elevator?
Joe: SPORT COURT follows Judge David Linda, a circuit court judge assigned to handle an ad hoc courtroom put together to prosecute rowdy fan behavior in the basement of the Hartford Ultradome. Think an updated Night Court.

IFC: How would you describe Sport Court to drunk friend of a friend you met in a bar?
Joe: Remember when you put those firecrackers down that guy’s pants at the baseball game? It’s about a judge who works in a court in the stadium that puts you in jail right then and there. I know, you actually did spend the night in jail, but imagine you went to court right that second and didn’t have to get your brother to take off work from GameStop to take you to your hearing.

IFC: Is there a method to your madness when coming up with sports fan faux pas?
Joe: I just think of the worst things that would ruin a sporting event for everyone. Peeing in the slushy machine in open view of a crowd seemed like a good one.

IFC: Honestly now, how many of the fan transgressions are things you’ve done or thought about doing?
Joe: I’ve thought about ripping out a whole row of chairs at a theater or stadium, so I would have my own private space. I like to think of that really whenever I have to sit crammed next to lots of people. Imagine the leg room!

Check out the full seasons of Frank and Lamar and Sport Court now on IFC’s Comedy Crib.

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Millennial Wisdom

Charles Speaks For Us All

Get to know Charles, the social media whiz of Brockmire.

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He may be an unlikely radio producer Brockmire, but Charles is #1 when it comes to delivering quips that tie a nice little bow on the absurdity of any given situation.

Charles also perfectly captures the jaded outlook of Millennials. Or at least Millennials as mythologized by marketers and news idiots. You know who you are.

Played superbly by Tyrel Jackson Williams, Charles’s quippy nuggets target just about any subject matter, from entry-level jobs in social media (“I plan on getting some experience here, then moving to New York to finally start my life.”) to the ramifications of fictional celebrity hookups (“Drake and Taylor Swift are dating! Albums y’all!”). But where he really nails the whole Millennial POV thing is when he comments on America’s second favorite past-time after type II diabetes: baseball.

Here are a few pearls.

On Baseball’s Lasting Cultural Relevance

“Baseball’s one of those old-timey things you don’t need anymore. Like cursive. Or email.”

On The Dramatic Value Of Double-Headers

“The only thing dumber than playing two boring-ass baseball games in one day is putting a two-hour delay between the boring-ass games.”

On Sartorial Tradition

“Is dressing badly just a thing for baseball, because that would explain his jacket.”

On Baseball, In A Nutshell

“Baseball is a f-cked up sport, and I want you to know it.”

Learn more about Charles in the behind-the-scenes video below.

And if you were born before the late ’80s and want to know what the kids think about Baseball, watch Brockmire Wednesdays at 10P on IFC.

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Crown Jules

Amanda Peet FTW on Brockmire

Amanda Peet brings it on Brockmire Wednesday at 10P on IFC.

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On Brockmire, Jules is the unexpected yin to Jim Brockmire’s yang. Which is saying a lot, because Brockmire’s yang is way out there. Played by Amanda Peet, Jules is hard-drinking, truth-spewing, baseball-loving…everything Brockmire is, and perhaps what he never expected to encounter in another human.

“We’re the same level of functional alcoholic.”

But Jules takes that commonality and transforms it into something special: a new beginning. A new beginning for failing minor league baseball team “The Frackers”, who suddenly about-face into a winning streak; and a new beginning for Brockmire, whose life gets a jumpstart when Jules lures him back to baseball. As for herself, her unexpected connection with Brockmire gives her own life a surprising and much needed goose.

“You’re a Goddamn Disaster and you’re starting To look good to me.”

This palpable dynamic adds depth and complexity to the narrative and pushes the series far beyond expected comedy. See for yourself in this behind-the-scenes video (and brace yourself for a unforgettable description of Brockmire’s genitals)…

Want more about Amanda Peet? She’s all over the place, and has even penned a recent self-reflective piece in the New York Times.

And of course you can watch the Jim-Jules relationship hysterically unfold in new episodes of Brockmire, every Wednesday at 10PM on IFC.

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