Pink Floyd’s Nick Mason on flying pigs

Nick Mason on "The Wall" tour

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Race car driver and 1960’s/70’s handlebar moustache model, Nick Mason, is best known for being the drummer of Pink Floyd. He is also the only founding member who remained from start to finish in a band that had three distinctly different frontmen over the course of four decades. The final piece of the “Why Pink Floyd?” reissue series will be revealed at the end of this month, culminating in two special editions of the climactic Roger Waters’ classic, “The Wall.” I talked with Mason about this forthcoming release, the early days with Syd Barrett, and about making the right sounds at the right time.


One can’t help but notice that you’re the only person who’s been in the band unbroken from start to finish. It seems like you’ve maybe brokered some peace agreements in the past too. Are you the easy going one?

I think I am and I think I’m probably the one, unlike the others, that requires other musicians to make it happen. Solo drummers tend to be rather dull. Whether I’m a peacemaker?  I don’t think so, I think it’s hard to broker peace between two people, but you can certainly sort of keep your head down and stick it out.

How has it been to revisit “The Wall” then?

Oh great! Although we have the reputation of being at each other with knives, clubs and guns most the time, that’s actually not quite how I remember it. Even “The Wall,” that has a reputation for being the most difficult period, a lot of it was actually very pleasant. it was people getting on and making the record and enjoying working on it. And I like the music, I’m proud of it.

What’s your favorite recording now?

The jewel in the crown is the “Wish You Were Here” tape with Stephane Grappelli on it. Because I remember the moment that he came into the studio so well, I mean, I was a big fan of his anyway. It was one of those things where I remembered he played on the record, but I thought we’d recorded over it. So it was an absolute delight when someone went, no, no, we’ve got it. We found it in the vaults, it’s still there. The most peculiar thing about that is why didn’t we decide to use it at the time.

Why didn’t you?

I have no idea! There must have been discussions saying no, it doesn’t work, or we’ve got something else that has to go on. I have no idea. I keep meaning to ask the others. I don’t think they can remember either.

A few days ago NASA released video of the actual dark side of the moon taken by an orbital space craft. Looking back how did the space age influence your sound at the time, or was it more just the tools that were becoming available, new synthesizers and the like?

Funny enough, I don’t think it was the space age that influenced that nearly as much as the music technology that was changing, as you say. There was the Moog, although we were very late in Moogs, there was this whole new development keyboards. There were things like the Mellotron and there were things like a lot of guitar effect stuff happened around that time. So fuzzboxes, flangers, you know, all that sort of thing. I think it was “Echoes,” part of the sound was actually plugging, plugging foot pedals in, back to front. And of course, all these sort of electronic sounds work very well with the sort of lunar themes and programs on space exploration of which there were a lot at the time. So the things just became sort of intertwined I suppose really.

A happy coincidence then.

Yeah, absolutely. But I think that’s very much part of music and success, and all the rest of it, making the right sounds at the right time.

And you did that distinctly well over several different phases, starting with Syd Barrett and that psychedelic sound. But even without the crazy diamond himself, you guys were deeply psychedelic, putting it mildly….

Yeah, except don’t forget if we hadn’t had Syd, it wouldn’t have got off the ground in the first place. There would have been no lift off.

He’s inseparable then from the idea of Pink Floyd?

I think so. If you just look at that first album, the first songs — which were the things that got us a record contract into Abbey Road and all the rest of it — without Syd, I mean, you wouldn’t even have Interstellar Overdrive. It’s just impossible to evaluate what would’ve existed without Syd in my opinion. I think Roger, at some point, something would’ve happened, but completely different.

He was very far out there but, you are all pretty far out there, weren’t you?

Well initially, I think the rest of us were probably following Syd at the time. And it might have sounded far out, but once Syd was gone, it became much more technical, we became more industrious. Even though part of that was to make the sound become more abstract, but  in order to achieve that, it was a matter of just going into the studio and messing about, so to speak. There was a lot more thought into how to make it work.

Do you have any regrets, to this day about how things were handled with Syd?

Oh God yes. The band politics were handled appallingly from beginning to end. You know, every step of the way. But having said that — we didn’t know any better — is what my lawyer’s going to tell you [laughter]. I think we all regret that we didn’t know how to look after Syd better. And the split with Roger. If we had all known what we know now, I think we could have dealt with it a hell of a lot better. But we didn’t.

“Live at Pompeii” is one of the best music films of all time, sometimes it’s hard to imagine a band that cool, that authentic today. What was going through your head in that ancient amphitheater?

[Laughs] Well, I think, we were unaware of just what a good idea it was. I mean, I’d love for any us to be able to take credit for it, but it was very much an idea that had been sprung by Adrian Maben, who’s the director of the film. That combination of the venue, which was romantic in its own right, and the fact that it was outdoors with the wind blowing and empty, you know, which meant that we were completely free to re-shoot things, gave it a live feel without actually having to go through the process of curtailing the show because we had a real audience to please. I thought it was a fantastically successful formula that unfortunately owed nothing to the band’s, [laugh] creativity.

Well that’s all right, it wouldn’t have been much without you either! What would it take for the remaining three of you to tour again? Pigs flying, or is it a maybe a little easier than that now?

No, I think it would take flying pigs. Very hard to, to see it happening. Roger’s really happy working on his own. David, I think, would be very wary of doing the big shows and working with Roger full time. It’d be lovely to be able to give people good news. But I think if we did ever manage to do anything, it would be generated by a something like a Live 8 situation where we could make a difference to something that mattered.

So tell me, what car are you driving these days?

An Audi RS6, which is the estate bodied version, with a very powerful engine. So it means you can sit and drive it like a hooligan, but you can actually put a drum kit in the back of it too.


What’s your favorite Floyd era? Let us know in the comments below or on Twitter or Facebook!

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BFFs And Night Court For Sports

Bromance and Comeuppance On Two New Comedy Crib Series

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“Silicon Valley meets Girls meets black male educators with lots of unrealized potential.”

That’s how Carl Foreman Jr. and Anthony Gaskins categorize their new series Frank and Lamar which joins Joe Schiappa’s Sport Court in the latest wave of new series available now on IFC’s Comedy Crib. To better acquaint you with the newbies, we went right to the creators for their candid POVs. And they did not disappoint. Here are snippets of their interviews:

Frank and Lamar


IFC: How would you describe Frank and Lamar to a fancy network executive you met in an elevator?
Carl: Best bros from college live and work together teaching at a fancy Manhattan private school, valiantly trying to transition into a more mature phase of personal and professional life while clinging to their boyish ways.

IFC: And to a friend of a friend you met in a bar?
Carl: The same way, slightly less coherent.

Anthony: I’d probably speak about it with much louder volume, due to the bar which would probably be playing the new Kendrick Lamar album. I might also include additional jokes about Carl, or unrelated political tangents.

Carl: He really delights in randomly slandering me for no reason. I get him back though. Our rapport on the page, screen, and in real life, comes out of a lot of that back and forth.

IFC: In what way is Frank and Lamar a poignant series for this moment in time?
Carl: It tells a story I feel most people aren’t familiar with, having young black males teach in a very affluent white world, while never making it expressly about that either. Then in tackling their personal lives, we see these three-dimensional guys navigate a pivotal moment in time from a perspective I feel mainstream audiences tend not to see portrayed.

Anthony: I feel like Frank and Lamar continues to push the envelope within the genre by presenting interesting and non stereotypical content about people of color. The fact that this show brought together so many talented creative people, from the cast and crew to the producers, who believe in the project, makes the work that much more intentional and truthful. I also think it’s pretty incredible that we got to employ many of our friends!

Sport Court

Sport Court gavel

IFC: How would you describe Sport Court to a fancy network executive you met in an elevator?
Joe: SPORT COURT follows Judge David Linda, a circuit court judge assigned to handle an ad hoc courtroom put together to prosecute rowdy fan behavior in the basement of the Hartford Ultradome. Think an updated Night Court.

IFC: How would you describe Sport Court to drunk friend of a friend you met in a bar?
Joe: Remember when you put those firecrackers down that guy’s pants at the baseball game? It’s about a judge who works in a court in the stadium that puts you in jail right then and there. I know, you actually did spend the night in jail, but imagine you went to court right that second and didn’t have to get your brother to take off work from GameStop to take you to your hearing.

IFC: Is there a method to your madness when coming up with sports fan faux pas?
Joe: I just think of the worst things that would ruin a sporting event for everyone. Peeing in the slushy machine in open view of a crowd seemed like a good one.

IFC: Honestly now, how many of the fan transgressions are things you’ve done or thought about doing?
Joe: I’ve thought about ripping out a whole row of chairs at a theater or stadium, so I would have my own private space. I like to think of that really whenever I have to sit crammed next to lots of people. Imagine the leg room!

Check out the full seasons of Frank and Lamar and Sport Court now on IFC’s Comedy Crib.

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Charles Speaks For Us All

Get to know Charles, the social media whiz of Brockmire.

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He may be an unlikely radio producer Brockmire, but Charles is #1 when it comes to delivering quips that tie a nice little bow on the absurdity of any given situation.

Charles also perfectly captures the jaded outlook of Millennials. Or at least Millennials as mythologized by marketers and news idiots. You know who you are.

Played superbly by Tyrel Jackson Williams, Charles’s quippy nuggets target just about any subject matter, from entry-level jobs in social media (“I plan on getting some experience here, then moving to New York to finally start my life.”) to the ramifications of fictional celebrity hookups (“Drake and Taylor Swift are dating! Albums y’all!”). But where he really nails the whole Millennial POV thing is when he comments on America’s second favorite past-time after type II diabetes: baseball.

Here are a few pearls.

On Baseball’s Lasting Cultural Relevance

“Baseball’s one of those old-timey things you don’t need anymore. Like cursive. Or email.”

On The Dramatic Value Of Double-Headers

“The only thing dumber than playing two boring-ass baseball games in one day is putting a two-hour delay between the boring-ass games.”

On Sartorial Tradition

“Is dressing badly just a thing for baseball, because that would explain his jacket.”

On Baseball, In A Nutshell

“Baseball is a f-cked up sport, and I want you to know it.”

Learn more about Charles in the behind-the-scenes video below.

And if you were born before the late ’80s and want to know what the kids think about Baseball, watch Brockmire Wednesdays at 10P on IFC.

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Amanda Peet FTW on Brockmire

Amanda Peet brings it on Brockmire Wednesday at 10P on IFC.

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On Brockmire, Jules is the unexpected yin to Jim Brockmire’s yang. Which is saying a lot, because Brockmire’s yang is way out there. Played by Amanda Peet, Jules is hard-drinking, truth-spewing, baseball-loving…everything Brockmire is, and perhaps what he never expected to encounter in another human.

“We’re the same level of functional alcoholic.”

But Jules takes that commonality and transforms it into something special: a new beginning. A new beginning for failing minor league baseball team “The Frackers”, who suddenly about-face into a winning streak; and a new beginning for Brockmire, whose life gets a jumpstart when Jules lures him back to baseball. As for herself, her unexpected connection with Brockmire gives her own life a surprising and much needed goose.

“You’re a Goddamn Disaster and you’re starting To look good to me.”

This palpable dynamic adds depth and complexity to the narrative and pushes the series far beyond expected comedy. See for yourself in this behind-the-scenes video (and brace yourself for a unforgettable description of Brockmire’s genitals)…

Want more about Amanda Peet? She’s all over the place, and has even penned a recent self-reflective piece in the New York Times.

And of course you can watch the Jim-Jules relationship hysterically unfold in new episodes of Brockmire, every Wednesday at 10PM on IFC.

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