Tim & Eric talk “Billion Dollar Movie,” Woody Allen and their upcoming IFC series “Comedy Bang! Bang!”


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By Jordan Hoffman

After surviving near catastrophic ice-slips and trudging through what many Sundance veterans were calling the worst mid-fest snow storm in memory, I arrived, nose dripping, feet soaked and grumpy to talk to Tim Heidecker, Eric Wareheim and Will Forte.

The grumpiness lasted roughly thirty-five seconds. These guys are about as friendly and approachable as you can get, even a little cheerful to do what is perhaps the least funny thing in the world: analyze comedy.

“Awkward moments are. . .very much our thing,” Wareheim offered when I tried to articulate what it was that made them so special. Phrases like “annoyance humor” and “exhaustion humor” didn’t quite land as well.

“It’s the moments when things go really dark and you shouldn’t be laughing that I like the most. Like the scene in ‘This Is Spinal Tap’ when Christopher Guest leaves the band and Michael McKean is reacting to it.”

“I just love the pauses,” Will Forte chimed in. “And I think it is because I hate confrontation is real life, I love when it gets dragged out in comedy.”

Forte plays what could be construed as the bad guy in “Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie,” which had its Sundance premiere about 12 hours earlier. Forte kills as the mustachioed, turtleneck wearing sword salesman in the doomed mall Tim and Eric’s new PR consulting firm DOBIS is tasked with saving.

“I’d like to point out we shot in Palm Springs and those turtlenecks got really hot,” Forte reminded, eliciting a solid “oh, boo-hoo” from Tim.

What I find remarkable about Tim and Eric is that every single male person under a certain age I know adores them, perhaps to an almost obsessive degree. I wondered what comedies they obsessed over when they were coming of age.

“Christopher Guest movies,” Eric fired back without a beat. “And Mr. Show and SNL. Up until the Will Forte years, of course.”

Tim concurred with Christopher Guest, and also Woody Allen – both the “early, funny ones” and the later work. And not just because he was there, but you could tell he deeply admired the work Will Forte did on SNL. “Particularly those sketches that would come after the second musical performance. . .the really weird ones.”

If you were wondering what the deal was with Tim and Eric’s approach to post-production gags, it’s like this:

Internally, they call them “glitch-outs.” No, they don’t write them in the script, but they kinda know whenever they make a loud noise or a strange face that the editors are probably gonna mess with it. Sometimes they simply add them in if they’ve been cutting a scene and just get board. They are very aware that others are kinda copying the technique (particularly in advertising, which is doubly ironic) and they don’t have any hard feelings. “’Cause no one else does it right,” Eric stated.

As my time was running up I had to ask about IFC’s upcoming show “Comedy Bang! Bang!” that the guys are producing. It is based on the “Between Two Ferns” co-creator and “Mr. Show” alum Scott Aukerman’s popular podcast. Will it change the face of TV?

Tim: No.
Eric: Yes.
Will: (a disinterested third party) Maybe.

Eric went on to sing Scott’s praises, mentioning that there’s so much love for him in the comedy community that all the support he’s given over the years is going to feed right back into the show. Tim added that he’s jazzed because it is going to be very experimental, more experimental than the podcast, and will really push some boundaries. And that we should prepare for Reggie Watts’ music.

How jazzed are you to check out “Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie”? Let us know in the comments below, or on Facebook or Twitter.

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Documentary Now! Robert Evans Mansion

The Reel Deal

Everything You Need To Know About “Mr. Runner Up” Inspiration Robert Evans

Watch the two-part finale of Documentary Now! this Wednesday at 10P on IFC.

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In its upcoming two-part finale, Documentary Now! spoofs the crown jewel of docs: The Kid Stays In The Picture. It’s the autobiographical documentary about Robert Evans, the unlikely Hollywood mogul whose mix of self-aggrandizing bravado, classic good looks and extremely circumstantial good luck took him from being a salesman to an actor to the head of Paramount Pictures.

If you’ve never seen the film, it’s totally worth it. Rotten Tomatoes agrees, with a staggeringly-high approval rating. Watch it before, or watch it after — doesn’t matter. You’ll appreciate it whenever.

In the meantime, here’s a bit of background that will come in handy…

Robert Loves Robert

Robert Evans desk

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Robert Evans is the ultimate Robert Evans fan. The movie was narrated by Robert Evans and based on his memoir of the same name. It is totally unbiased.

He’s Kind Of A Big Deal

Robert Evans, Chinatown
Paramount Pictures

Evans produced some of Hollywood’s true classics: Chinatown, Rosemary’s Baby, The Godfather, Love Story…the list goes on. Totally legit and amazing movies.

He’s Also Kind Of A Joke

Wag The Dog
New Line Cinema

Evans has been parodied in TV shows and movies like Entourage and Wag The Dog. He is the quintessential “producer” you already have in your head.

So Wrong He’s Right

Robert Evans Slap
20th Century Film Corp

Robert Evans is a notorious narcissist whose love of self is so blind and sincere that it’s actually adorable.

There’s Something Missing

via Giphy

Entire sections of Robert Evans’ life are left out of the documentary. Maybe it’s because of timing. Maybe it’s because real life isn’t a tidy narrative. Who knows.

He Blew It

Spider coke

Evans had a pretty spectacular fall from grace. He was convicted of cocaine trafficking in the early 80’s, and was connected to a contract killing during the production of The Cotton Club. Oops.

Losing Is For Losers

Everett Collection
Everett Collection

In the Robert Evans mythology, all tragedies are just triumphs in disguise, and every story has a happy ending…for Robert Evans.

Bill Hader Jerry Wallach

With these simple facts in hand you are now prepared to thoroughly enjoy the two-part finale of Documentary Now! starting this Wednesday at 10/9c on IFC.

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Weird Roles

Anthony Michael Hall’s Most Rotten Movies

Catch Anthony Michael Hall in Weird Science on Friday at 8P on IFC.

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Anthony Michael Hall was the quintessential ’80s nerd. We love him in classics like The Breakfast Club and National Lampoon’s Vacation. But even the brainiest among us has his weak spots. In honor of Weird Science airing this Rotten Friday, we analyze Hall’s worst movies.

Weird Science (1985) 56%

A low point for John Hughes, Weird Science is way too wacky for its own good. Anthony Michael Hall’s Gary and his pal Wyatt (Ilan Mitchell-Smith) create the “perfect woman.” Supernatural chaos ensues. The film costars a young Bill Paxton, floppy disks, and a general disconnect from all reality.

The Caveman’s Valentine (2001) 46%

This ambitious drama starring Samuel L. Jackson couldn’t live up to its rich premise. Jackson plays Romulus, a Juilliard-educated, paranoid schizophrenic who lives in a cave. Hall co-stars as Bob, a rich man, who wants to see Romulus play the piano. The plot centers around Romulus investigating a murder, but with so much going on, the movie never quite finds its rhythm.

All About the Benjamins (2002) 30%

Ice Cube plays a bounty hunter who teams up with Mike Epps’ con man to catch diamond thieves. Hall plays Lil J, a small-time drug dealer. It’s definitely a role we’ve never seen Hall in, but overall the movie isn’t funny or original enough to justify its violence.

Freddy Got Fingered (2001) 11%

This showcase for Tom Green’s goofy gross-out comedy is often hailed as one of the worst films of all time. Green plays Gord, a 20-something slacker, who dreams of having his own animated series. Hall is Dave Davidson, a CEO of an animation studio who eventually helps Gord find success. Too bad Tom Green wasn’t so lucky.

Johnny Be Good (1988) 0%

Hall plays against type as Johnny Walker, a star quarterback. Robert Downey Jr. is his best friend and Uma Thurman plays his devoted girlfriend. Despite the support of a future A-list cast, the movie lacks central conflict and charm. Or, as TV Guide put it, “Johnny be worthless.” Ouch.

Catch the “Too Rotten to Miss” Weird Science this Friday at 8P on IFC.

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Season 6: Episode 1: Pickathon

Binge Fest

Portlandia Season 6 Now Available On DVD

The perfect addition to your locally-sourced, artisanal DVD collection.

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End of summer got you feeling like:

Portlandia Toni Screaming GIF

Ease into fall with Portlandia‘s sixth season. Relive the latest exploits of Fred Armisen and Carrie Brownstein’s cast of characters, including Doug and Claire’s poignant breakup, Lance’s foray into intellectual society, and the terrifying rampage of a tsukemen Noodle Monster! Plus, guest stars The Flaming Lips, Glenn Danzig, Louis C.K., Kevin Corrigan, Zoë Kravitz, and more stop by to experience what Portlandia is all about.

Pick up a copy of the DVD today, or watch full episodes and series extras now on IFC.com and the IFC app.

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